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In this episode, we reflect on the tragic loss of Charlie Kirk. Just hours before he was killed, Charlie shared his favorite verse—Romans 8:28—a verse that has become a guiding light for many through the grief and confusion left in the wake of his death. Our hope with this episode is to provide parents with some tools for navigating this tragedy with children who may be affected by it. We want to encourage families to grieve deeply, to lament biblically, and to pray boldly. We also want to point to the redemptive arc of God’s story—from creation to fall, from redemption in Christ to future glory. The God Charlie proclaimed is not silenced. This episode is a call to courage, to resolve, and to hope. A call for this generation to rise—not in retaliation, but in truth and grace. A call to mourn what was lost, but to also step into what comes next.
Main Points Covered
- Grieve with your children.
- Each child will mourn differently. Be sensitive!
- Warn of exposure to graphic content on X. Especially for teens!
- Encourage them with the hope of the Gospel
- Truth is worth defending.
- Being a Christian comes at a cost.
- Equip them to understand culture
- Weapons are the means, worldview is the cause.
- Understand the shift in the definitions of truth, hate, and harm.
- The joyful reaction is a reflection of the marxist worldview.
- Flourish in faith, family, and fellowship.
- Revere God.
- Be active in church.
- Worship and train up your families.
- Bring as many people to the cross with you as possible.
Questions addressed
- Why does evil happen?
- Would gun control stop such occurrences?
- Why would people rejoice over this loss?
- Is “speaking hate” the cause of this event? Spoiler: no, it is the speaking of truth!
- As believers, what do we do now?
Resources & Organizations Mentioned
Scriptures:
- Romans 8:28 – Charlie’s favorite verse
- Revelation 3:16 – Lukewarm Christianity
- Matthew 5:13 – Salt of the earth
- 2 Corinthians 10:5 – Taking thoughts captive
- Matthew 28 – The Great Commission
- Acts 17:26 – God’s sovereignty over nations
- Ephesians 6:12 – Spiritual warfare
- Proverbs 22:6 – Train up a child
Quotable Quotes
Neutrality in a spiritual war is actually siding with evil. - Amy Davison Share on X Our hope is not in worldly outcomes. It’s in eternal blessings found in Christ. -Hillary Morgan Ferrer Share on X Your purpose is to bring as many people to God as possible—so what will you do with the life you’ve been given? - Amy Davison Share on X
We are all in this together, so sometimes our posts are a bit of all of us.
Hello,
I would like to ask a few questions that came to mind while watching your podcast. Hoping you might be able to explain in further detail.
1. Why are we idolizing this man, regardless of how he died, or lived? We are to have no idols in our life, including people and celebrities – which is what Charlie Kirk was, a celebrity. He was okay with George Floyd dying because, and I quote, “This guy was a scumbag.” Based on the other quotes from Charlie circling around, many people could say the same about him. I am not condoning it, I actually think it is sad that people are happy when anyone dies, but he (and you) have a double standard here.
2. Why are you learning debate techniques from Charlie Kirk? It debates with gotchas and what-aboutisms, choosing to talk to college students who may not be as well read on the subject as he is. A Christian debater who is much better at this is Wise Disciple, I recommend you check out his youtube channel for “learning” about debating with a Christian slant.
2. I get the sentiment, but I feel like you are purposefully misinterpreting the words “gun violence”. We know that means people committing violent acts with guns, not that guns are conscious and deciding to do those things. It’s disingenuous. Furthermore, in Charlie’s own words: “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.” Does this sit well with you? You are okay with other people dying so long as it isn’t you or him? He used the term “gun deaths” – doesn’t he know guns can’t die?
3. Are you in the world, or of the world? Charlie Kirk is known world-wide, for no particularly exceptional reason. Why arn’t we mourning the old lady who is shut-in, but continued to pray for her congregation daily when she passes away? In my opinion, she’s done more in the quietness of her on room than Charlie Kirk has done grand-standing. Sure he’s quoted bible verses, but have people heard his demeaning comments towards black people and thought “This Jesus is different, he hates people – I should learn more about him”?
I want to end by saying, I appreciate what you are trying to do here, it’s important to talk about grief with your children, and grieve with them. I just think there are some other lessons you can teach them (regarding Charlie Kirk) while you are there. I look forward to hearing from you.