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You can’t get around it. There are rainbows on everything your kids see this month, from the parking lots to the barista aprons. So how do we address this with our kids? But first things first, we have a new podcast co-host! Meet Amy Davison! I know you’ll love her as much as we do. You can't get around it. There are rainbows on everything your kids see this month, from the parking lots to the barista aprons. So how do we address this with our kids? #apologetics Click To Tweet
Intro:
Meet Amy Davison, one of our new podcast co-hosts as she shares her story of how she became a Mama Bear Apologetics apologist.
“Two Questions Every Christian Should Ask Before Tackling LGBTQ+ Issues” by Hillary Morgan Ferrer
Main points covered:
Practical tips for addressing gay pride month with your kids:
- Find out what they already know
- Ask about the rainbow, what is it/what does it mean, what does culture say it means
- Ask about the rainbow, what is it/what does it mean, what does culture say it means
- Educate about what the movement is
- Why June is Gay Pride month, some of the history and frustrations that led to its coming about.
- Why June is Gay Pride month, some of the history and frustrations that led to its coming about.
- Raising kids in a counter-cultural world
- We need to be living as if we are in Babylon.
- Learn what culture was teaching them, but do not compromise your faith (e.g., Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego)
- You don’t have to give up everything, but expect to be different.
- Exposure to germs helps the immune system attack foreign invaders. It is the same with faith; if we keep our kids away from any “spiritual bacteria,” then they won’t be prepared for the onslaught of attacks in middle school, high school, and college.
- Attacks are going to be attractive and convincing. Train them early. Buy the Mama Bear Book to help you!
- Difference between desire and action
- Offer perspective to better understand the issues and struggles of LGBTQ folks.
- Offer perspective to better understand the issues and struggles of LGBTQ folks.
- Dealing with people vs. how we deal with Biblical commands
- Sometimes we can be unyielding with people and overly gracious (to the point of compromise) with Scripture. In reality, we need to take hold of what is true (Scripture) but extend the graciousness of Christ as we witness to those who are not believers, or are weaker/newer believers.Sometimes we can be unyielding with people and overly gracious (to the point of compromise) with Scripture. In reality, we need to take hold of what is true (Scripture) but extend the graciousness of Christ to people. #apologetics Click To Tweet
- Col. 4:6
- That balance of truth and grace, not one or the other.
- We are to treat people as they are all welcome at the table and equal before the cross.
People and resources mentioned:
- Mama Bear Apologetics: Empowering Your Kids To Challenge Cultural Lies
- “What Went Wrong with the ‘90s Purity Culture?” by Amy Davison
- “Two Questions Every Christian Should Ask Before Tackling LGBTQ+ Issues” by Hillary Morgan Ferrer
- Sex and the Supremacy of Christ by John Piper and Justin Taylor
- Interview with Nadia Bolz-Weber
- “The Jefferson Bible and a Founder’s Deism”
- Nickelodeon’s “The Loud House”
Unfamiliar vocab:
- Ethos – a Latin word meaning the appeal to what is morally right. Root word of “ethical.”
- Gravitas – a Latin word meaning weighted with seriousness and significance. Root word of “grave,” as in “a grave, serious matter.”
- Deist – Someone who believes God created the universe but does not interact with His creation or creatures.
Quotable quotes:
“Why does this topic matter so deeply? Because our sexuality is a big deal.”
— Hillary Morgan Ferrer
“There are certain topics that are more emotionally charged and require finesse and nuance. There are certain areas in human existence where the demons of condemnation love to hover and attack. Identity is one of those areas.”
— Hillary Morgan Ferrer
“This is for many like an open, festering wound. We cannot go casually poking around and expect them to thank us.”
— Hillary Morgan Ferrer
“It is easy to forget that the words we say, cloaked in scholarly language, can cut someone to their very core, to their very soul. We can’t afford to do this kind of worldview surgery lightly.”
— Hillary Morgan Ferrer
“I want to talk about these issues like we talk about what they did at school or what they had for lunch.”
— Amy Davison
[on keeping the doors open for conversation with your kids]
“Being counter-cultural doesn’t mean you have to give up everything, but it does mean that you have to expect to be different.”
— Hillary Morgan Ferrer
“So often innocence starts slipping into ignorance.”
— Amy Davison
“The world would love for your kids to remain ignorant, because if they are ignorant then they have no defenses and are easy targets.”
— Amy Davison
“It’s so much easier to train Lucy, than to rescue Edmond.”
— Amy Davison
[on why it’s important to train your kids on the attacks they’ll encounter in the world]
“Sex is the effective religion of our culture. Sex is like a religion, not only because it is objectively holy in itself, but also because it gives us a subjective foretaste of Heaven – of the self-forgetting, self-transcending, self-giving that is what our deepest hearts are designed for, long for, and will not be satisfied until they have.”
“Sexuality is designed by God as a way to know God in Christ more fully. Knowing God in Christ more fully is designed as a way of guarding and guiding our sexuality. All misuses of our sexuality distort the true knowledge of Christ, and all misuses of our sexuality derive from not having the true knowledge of Christ.”
— Sex and the Supremacy of Christ, p. 16
“Merely having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind as in opening the mouth is to shut it again on something solid. Otherwise it could end up like a city sewer rejecting nothing.”
— G.K. Chesterton
“You got to look at the way that the Lord has treated you, it’s so much more graciously than the way that we sometimes treat people who are not as far along in their walk with Christ.”
— Hillary Morgan Ferrer
“We need to have an open mind with scripture in as far as we are trying to uncover what the truth is that is actually there. Once we do uncover the truth that is actually there, it’s ok to close our mind around something that is true.”
— Hillary Morgan Ferrer
Title image credits: SÃO PAULO, SP, 04.05.2014 – PARADA GAY: A 18a Parada Gay começa na tarde deste domingo na Avenida Paulista e percorre até a Praça Roosevelt em São Paulo. (Foto: Ben Tavener / Brazil Photo Press).

Hillary Morgan Ferrer is the founder of Mama Bear Apologetics. She is the chief author and editor of Mama Bear Apologetics: Empowering Your Kids to Challenge Cultural Lies and Mama Bear Apologetics Guide to Sexuality: Empowering Your Kids to Understand and Live Out God’s Design. Hillary has her masters in Biology and has been married to her husband, Dr. John D. Ferrer, for 15 years. Don’t let her cook for you. She’ll burn your house straight to the ground.
Hi – thanks for all that you do! quick question I’m not seeing your podcasts on iTunes… The last one is from November 7, 2018?? If there a way to get these on there too? Thanks!
Sorry if this feels awkward, but I like to answer questions honestly. I’ve had so much happen in the last 9 months between finishing all the editing for the book and the death of my sister, plus a bunch of stuff I won’t list here. All that to say, we had to take a sabbatical from the podcast but we should be back up and running again! It’s not a glitch in iTunes. I consider it a blessing to have people let us know that we were missed while we were gone though. 🙂
Great post Mama Bear.
You’re the real deal.
Thanks Geoff!
Great podcast, ladies! ❤️
Thanks Beks!
Wow what a fantastic resource! I found you through Alisa Childers’ post about Rachel Hollis & Girl Wash Your Face. Praying God will help you continue this vital work!
Thanks Morgan! I’ve been on vaca this week with my mom, but have seen your emails. I’ll need to rest a few days and then I’ll be returning all the emails I didn’t get to. Just wanted to give you a heads up!
It’s been a rough month with regard to this around here. We’ve had 3 of my kids friends “come out” and we’re trying to process it.
Great podcast! I have a question in regard to conversations with our kids: what if our kids aren’t great at opening up? What if deep conversations seem to shut them down? I have had some of these conversations with my daughter, but she doesn’t seem open or to even engage much. How would you approach these difficult topics with a kid like that? Thanks!!
Hi just dropping by to say that my parents raised me on the straight and narrow, homeschooled and whole deal and nothing could crush the bisexuality out me Your kids are who they are regardless of how stringently you restrict their access to the world. Wishing you and yours a happy pride month and please stop contributing to the reason why queer kids feel their only option is suicide!
We never tell children to commit suicide. Doesn’t socialist Canada euthanize humans by the thousands? If it is impossible to crush the bisexuality out of people as you have stated then why are there only bisexuals today, why not in the Roman Empire or the Ottoman Empire? They would have plenty of records of this lustfulness. This must mean it is taught, not instinctive.
If you truly have that nature you should suppress it. It is sin, repent.
Now stop grooming children.